Episode 88

How Kimberly Found Love After 13 Years of Avoiding It

In this episode, Kimberly gets raw about forgiving herself after an affair, dropping decades of shame, and learning what real emotional maturity looks like.
26 mins
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Show Notes

When you’ve been single for 13 years, “I’m fine” starts sounding a lot like “I’ve given up.”

Kimberly was successful on paper, but she was quietly miserable off it. Between perimenopause, work burnout, and pandemic isolation, she’d convinced herself she was too busy (and too jaded) for love. Then she found Ready for Love, and everything shifted. 

She thought she was signing up to find love. Happily, she found herself in the process.

In this episode, Kimberly gets raw about forgiving herself after an affair, dropping decades of shame, and learning what real emotional maturity looks like. She shares how doing the work helped her move cities, meet her partner (again), and launch her own consulting business with actual self-trust.

Now she’s living proof: self-love isn’t a backup plan, it’s the whole plan.

In this episode, you’ll learn...

Episode Highlights:
  • Why independence can be emotional armor in disguise
  • The real reason self-forgiveness changes everything
  • What “doing the work” actually looks like when it sticks
  • How loving yourself first changes your love life and your career
  • The secret to attracting love that feels calm, not chaotic
Episode Breakdown:
[00:00] Finding Love by Loving Yourself First
[00:22] 13 Years Single and Ready for Change
[05:53] Healing Shame and Rebuilding Self-Worth
[07:58] How Attachment Styles Impact Relationships
[11:07] Meeting Her Partner and Creating Healthy Love
[14:46] From Self-Love to Career Confidence
[22:27] Why Investing in Yourself Always Pays Off

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Finding love really re manifested in finding love

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of myself first, right?

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So the course helped me uncover that, uh,

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and I think that really established myself

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and in the ability to have confidence.

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Hey everybody, welcome to the Ready for Love podcast.

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Today we are joined by one of our Ready for Love graduates,

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Kimberly, and I’m so excited that she’s here.

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Of course, I always love when women are courageous

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and brave enough to share their stories,

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because this is really just so personal for so many women.

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But when women share their story,

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it really helps other women

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who are listening hear themselves

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and see themselves in each other

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and maybe reach out to get help that they need.

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So let’s welcome Kimberly. Hello,

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Kimberly. Hi.

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Nice to be here.

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Oh, so happy to talk to you.

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Um, I reached out because I saw on Facebook that you

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and your honey went on a long trip together,

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and I was like, oh, yeah, it’s happening.

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So I gotta reach out and, and find out more.

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So we’re gonna talk all about where you’re at now, but

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before we get there, um, if you could,

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if we could just start with a little bit about

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where you were when you found me and you reached out.

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Like what were you struggling with?

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What was painful for you? What was happening?

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Oh, gosh. Um, well, it was 2021.

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Um, in the, in the midst of kind of like the beginning

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of the COVID lockdown.

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I think guys, I was actually really, um,

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really struggling personally and professionally.

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Um, it had been 13 years since I got divorced,

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and I had been really resisting any kind

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of serious relationship.

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Um, and I think it was, maybe it was a, you know,

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combination of COVID, perimenopause, you know, my job

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not being happy and being isolated that I was like,

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I really need to change something.

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And it was literally out of nowhere.

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I feel like the universe was listening to me,

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and like, your video, your website or video came to me

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and I was like, oh my goodness.

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Like, this is exactly what I’m looking for.

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Um, and yeah, and,

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and it was the best decision I ever made, so,

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Oh my gosh, I love to hear that.

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And yeah, everybody was struggling.

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I mean, our business more than tripled in COVID. Yeah.

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Um, just because I think really busy,

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high achieving women all of a sudden,

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if you remove the hustle and the bustle and the activities

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and the distractions mm-hmm.

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I called it sitting and spinning.

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Women were sitting with themselves

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and spinning out about like what was going on

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with them getting real with themselves,

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and there was no, you know, distraction.

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So a lot of women, um, reached for help at that time.

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Tell us, okay, so you, you had been divorced 13 years. Yeah.

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And when you were avoiding relationships,

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meaning were you dating at all

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or were you just getting into little things here and there?

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was really not serious about relationships.

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Um, I realized I wasn’t emotionally available.

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I was just, you know, I guess having fun,

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but at the same time, not,

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and also struggling to find someone I wanted to be with.

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Um, you, you know, and I think through, and we’ll get to it,

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but like through the course, I realized

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that I was really blocking myself those 13 years.

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And, you know, part of it was like,

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I think I needed a reset.

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And in 2021 when I started a program, I was like,

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now I’m ready to really kind of take the blinders off,

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take everything off, and,

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and really what I would call, like you call it ready

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for love, I I was really calling it finding love. Yeah.

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Well, and you can’t do it until you’re really ready.

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Exactly. You just can’t.

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You, you know, if we came across your feed earlier,

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you either would’ve ignored us

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or been mad at me for saying, you’re the problem,

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or, you know, you just would’ve just skipped right over it.

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but also just kind

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of putting it on the back burner at the same time. You

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Know, I thought I wanted a relationship,

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but I, I really didn’t

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because I wasn’t emotionally available.

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and I, I actually, the truth is, I,

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I didn’t really know how to love myself.

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I had not forgiven myself from the divorce

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and was using that as an excuse to not find love.

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So yeah, I mean, yeah,

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You said like you had had an affair in your marriage

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and you were just hard on yourself beating up on yourself,

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couldn’t forgive yourself, couldn’t get over it.

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And and I think a lot of women who do that,

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whether it’s an affair

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or anything, just feel like, I don’t, I did that

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and now I don’t deserve love.

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Yeah. I mean, it was a little bit of that.

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I mean, you know, I’m not happy about, uh, of doing that,

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but, you know, I realized, you know, I, um,

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I really didn’t have my own voice

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in my relationship with my marriage.

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Um, I didn’t, and quite frankly,

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I was really immature emotionally.

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Um, you know, and it was sort of like you had said,

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you know, it was like a drop of of sponge.

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It was a wet a drop on a very dry sponge,

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and I was this dry sponge that I was just like,

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oh my God, I have an attention.

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And, and I got caught in that.

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And, but it, what it forced me to realize was

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that I was really, you know, not ready

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to be in a relationship.

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And, and for 13 years later, I wasn’t.

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And I, not until I, I came to the program, but

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I just love your ownership of that.

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And, and, you know, we do a lot of healing

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and self-forgiveness in the program,

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and a lot of self-compassion,

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which most women don’t do very well.

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Yeah. We’re very good at being hard on ourselves,

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but not good at having compassion.

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Most of the time when people have an affair, it’s

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because they’re struggling and suffering

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and don’t have words for it, or don’t know how to fix it,

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or don’t know how to get help.

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And I’m not excusing the behavior, obviously,

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but there’s always a, a good explanation.

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And if you had lost yourself in your marriage, uh, just

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to share with the listeners, that drop

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of water on a dried out sponge is kind of my metaphor

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for women who are starved in the relationship, even men.

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Yeah. When we’re starved for feeling seen and witnessed

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and appreciated and valued and important

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and loved by somebody

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because of the dynamic that’s going on in the relationship,

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what each person is bringing, it doesn’t take much for an

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outside influence to give it to you.

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It’s all too alluring if you’ve been parched in a desert

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for someone to come along

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and be a tall drink of water, you know?

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Exactly. It’s too easy.

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So do you feel like then some

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of the work in the program was learning forgiveness?

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Oh, absolutely. I mean, I think it was, it was, you know,

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the, the course in itself really helped me, first of all,

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you know, sort of forgive myself to give me grace.

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You know, I’m people who have affairs are not bad people.

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It happens to everybody.

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I think, you know, at the time, reflecting back,

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you know, I was really young.

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I didn’t know how to have my own voice.

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I didn’t know how to do that. Lots of women are like that.

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I just, I grew up in a, in a family that, you know,

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we really didn’t voice what our true intentions were.

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And so I’m not giving that as an excuse,

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but it really taught me that, you know, how

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to build confidence, how to build my own self, um,

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as reassurance that I deserve to ask for

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what I want to be my voice, um, and things like that.

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And so it really taught me a lot.

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It taught me, you know, the attachment style was really

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something that was eyeopening for me.

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Um, and I practice that every day.

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I understand why I behave a certain way, and I

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and my partner behaves a certain way.

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just understanding those dynamics is really important to be,

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uh, in a mature relationship.

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And I think that was all the lessons in all the mistakes

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that I’ve made in the past have really helped me learn

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and grow into the relationship I have now.

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Yeah. And now you can trust yourself to,

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to handle it differently this time around.

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Like, it’s important to learn to trust yourself that,

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you know, part of the taking responsibility in the program,

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which can be that bitter pill to swallow down,

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is actually the magic pill to solve everything.

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Because when you see where you went wrong and why,

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and then you learn what’s better

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to do differently going forward,

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you trust yourself mm-hmm. To move forward.

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Yep. Yeah, exactly. So tell

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Us a little, also, I know

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that you said this had a huge impact on you professionally,

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and that you had been struggling professionally too.

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So how did this translate over

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into helping you in your career?

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Great question. So, you know, as I men,

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I mentioned your program was ready for love.

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And I, and for me, in my head space,

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I was thinking finding love

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and finding love really re manifested in finding

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love of myself first.

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Right. So the course helped me uncover that.

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Uh, and I think that really established myself

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and in the ability to have confidence who I am.

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I think, you know, one of your, one

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of your meditations was one of my favorite.

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And and this might might be kind of a, you know, an opening

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to people who haven’t completed the course yet.

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But when you talked about that metaphor about the marble

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and that each person is born

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with this beautiful shaped marble,

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and the things that happened to them chip

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away a little bit on that marble, in the end,

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you’re this beautiful marble that is unique to yourself

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because of all the experiences you have.

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And I think that was so profound for me

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because I was like, you’re right.

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Like, no one else is this person.

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I’m the only one that’s gone through these experiences.

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I am this beautiful marble, um, shape and this,

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and, um, and yeah.

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And I had the confidence of really believing in myself

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and loving everything, even all my mistakes,

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even the affair, even everything that I has done, I sort

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of unforgiving now.

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And that’s really allowed me to get confidence in myself

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and trusting myself and trusting my gut.

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And then based on that love, I’m able

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to give more love, if that makes any sense.

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So that was really profound for me.

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And it was just like, aha.

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I always had to hold myself back from squealing

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with delight, because I just love, I love that so much.

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And, um, and,

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and you’re talking about the visualization in the journal,

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the Daily Journal, which is, I sell the program,

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I sell the Daily Journal separately,

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and for anybody listening, you can go to ready

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for love inc.com/journal and check that out.

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It is sold separately, but it is rolled into the program

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among all the other things that we do.

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And there are lots of visualizations as part of that.

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And one of them is this marble where I talk about

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where all this chunk of marble really just undefined,

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amorphous, when we’re born and over time are experiences

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and the messages we get

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and all the things we that happen along the way slowly

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chisel away until we become this really unique creature

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that no one, no one else looks like us.

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Mm-hmm. And, and there’s also a lot of other ones too.

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Like, do you remember the tree in the,

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in the, in the metaphor?

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

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It’s, I’m a very visual person,

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so creating those was really deeply personal for me,

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and those were the things that helped me

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and my own personal journey to get where I am.

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And so I just love sharing that with everybody.

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Um, so, um, tell us now then

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where you’re at with your love life,

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and we’ll talk about your work too.

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Yeah. So I think since the program, I actually moved, um,

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so in 2022, right

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after I completed the program, I ended up getting a new job

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and I moved myself to Boston, um, which is

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where I found my partner, who interestingly I,

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I’d met previously five years before,

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but we just, you know, we didn’t,

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we were like, see you again, never.

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And then we, we re-met in Boston.

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We actually moved at this almost about the same time.

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And, and I think both of us came at the same time,

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really kind of wanting to find love and, and, um, and yeah.

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So ever since we’ve been together, say

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Three, Did you say? And

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Never, Yeah, we did.

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We were like, see you again. Never. And that was, you know,

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five years before I started that program, or four years.

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And, um, and, and I was,

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and it was like that kind of, I was aw, I was awake,

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you know, and, and he was also awake.

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And so we just came together

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and I’ll, I’ll tell you like,

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we’re been three and a half years.

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I mean, it is not perfect, let’s

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just be honest. Relationships I

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Don’t think is ever perfect, are

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Never perfect. And

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I think one of the things that I would, you know,

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plug is that attachment style

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and just recognizing my attachment style

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and his attachment style.

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I mean, we are the most completely opposite people, um,

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but we kind of come together

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and sort of bring each other to the middle.

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I think it’s also respecting, um, each other in our,

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in the way we attach, um, in our personalities.

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You know, your, your model of the sunny side up is

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so important for me

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because it was two people coming together.

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And even though we fight, we have arguments.

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Um, and at times it can be really difficult.

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We’re always coming together in a very respectful way

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to understand each other’s perspectives, um, when we’re,

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you know, common collective.

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But it’s that communication that really brings us together,

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keeps that circle around us very, very solid.

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And I, I would say, you know, that,

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that really sticks with me all the time.

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Yeah. That’s, um, another visual of course.

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And another metaphor, and I call it sunny side up, simply

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because it looks like two fried eggs.

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Yeah, exactly. And yeah,

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and you know, in the program, basically you’re,

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you’ve really done a great job demonstrating a lot

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of the highlights of our program in terms of like,

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we help women understand how

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to be healthy in a relationship.

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And all that include that includes boundaries

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and communication and, and how to, how to create intimacy

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and safety and, and all of that.

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And then also how to love yourself and value yourself

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and forgive yourself and be your best self.

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And it wasn’t just about finding love because you found him,

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and here you are still using the things

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that you learned in the program, what, five years later.

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Yeah, exactly. With This

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man that you’ve been with now three years.

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I love that that’s a testament to you, Kimberly, for

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really absorbing and owning it all,

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and, um, being committed. Yeah,

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It’s practice, it, it is a practice.

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You know, I think it’s just, I think opening my mind up to,

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well, first of all, forgiving myself, forgiving my family.

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I think that was also another part of it.

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Um, you know,

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and then also being aware of just how I, how I show up,

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you know, in the world and how I show up to my partners

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and my friends and things like that.

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And, and I think it was that the tools

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that you provide in the program are, you know,

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not just relationship also, but professionally too,

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because you’ve gotta build relationships

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with those people as well.

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And I think it’s just really great practice.

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And in fact, I use your journal still to this day. Yay.

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It’s a really great exercise to start, you know, really

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and provide putting intentions forward

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and being mindful of it,

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and work, doing the work, I think that’s so important

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because it doesn’t just come to you.

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You really have to do the work doing the practice, you know,

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and, and, you know, you continue to use,

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and I, as, as I’ve, you know, been talking to you

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through this, is I still use those tools every day.

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And I, and I, and I is the best,

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the best thing that ever happened to me. So

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I just feel like my heart’s exploding right now

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because I just feel this is, this is

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what I get to do every day.

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And I’m so lucky that I get to be a part of that for you.

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And, um, I’m so excited for you

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and I love celebrating women.

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So tell us what you’re doing now with work,

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because I know you went out on your

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own, and that’s really exciting.

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So tell us what you do,

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and you probably use the journal to help create that

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and make that happen, right?

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Yeah. I, so about a year ago I decided

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to start my own consulting business.

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Um, I’ve, um, you know,

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and actually I was really built up from my network

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of relationships that I had built

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who have been carrying me along this way.

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And, and it’s exciting.

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Um, and you know, I think it’s part of just like, I,

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like you said, like the marble.

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I am this unique marble,

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and I’m, I’m here out for the world

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to really help other companies.

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So my specialty really ran precision medicine

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and, um, oncology

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and helping startup companies

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develop their innovative tools and bring them to market.

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So, um, so yeah. Wow.

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It’s, it’s been a really great experience, excited about it.

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So that is that,

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and I think both of us came at the same time, really kind

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of wanting to find love and, and, um, and yeah.

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So ever since we’ve been together, did you say,

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Did you say and never.

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Yeah, we did. We were like, see you again. Never.

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And that was, you know, five years

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before I started that program, or four years.

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And, um, and, and I was,

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and it was like that kind of, I was aw,

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I was awake, you know?

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And, and he was also awake.

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And so we just came together

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and I’ll, I’ll tell you like

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we’re been three and a half years.

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I mean, it is not perfect, let’s just

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be honest. Relationships, I don’t

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Think it’s ever perfect, Are never perfect.

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And I think one of the things that I would, you know,

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plug is that attachment style

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and just recognizing my attachment style

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and his attachment style.

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I mean, we are the most completely opposite people, um,

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but we kind of come together

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and sort of bring each other to the middle.

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I think it’s also respecting, um, each other in our,

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in the way we attach, um, in our personalities.

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You know, your, your model of the sunny side up is

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so important for me

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because it was two people coming together.

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And even though we fight, we have arguments, um,

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and at times it can be really difficult.

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We’re always coming together in a very respectful way

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to understand each other’s perspectives, um, when we’re,

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you know, common collective.

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But it’s that communication that really brings us together,

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keeps that circle around us very, very solid.

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And I, I would say, you know, that,

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that really sticks with me all the time. Yeah,

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That’s, um, another visual of course,

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and another metaphor, and I call it sunny side up, simply

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because it looks like two fried eggs.

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Yeah, exactly. And yeah,

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and you know, in the program, basically you’re,

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you’ve really done a great job demonstrating a lot

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of the highlights of our program in terms of like,

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we help women understand how

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to be healthy in a relationship.

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And all that include that includes boundaries

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and communication and,

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and how to, how to, how to create intimacy

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and safety and, and all of that.

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And then also how to love yourself and value yourself

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and forgive yourself and be your best self.

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And it wasn’t just about finding love because you found him,

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and here you are still using the things

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that you learned in the program, what, five years later.

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Yeah, exactly. With This

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man that you’ve been with now three years.

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I love that that’s a testament to you, Kimberly, for

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really absorbing and owning it all,

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and, um, being committed.

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Yeah, yeah. It’s practice, it, it is a practice.

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You know, I think it’s just, I think opening my mind up to,

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well, first of all, forgiving myself, forgiving my family.

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I think that was also another part of it.

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Um, you know,

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and then also being aware of just all the diff you know,

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how I, how I show up, you know, in the world

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and how I show up to my partners

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and my friends and things like that.

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And, and I think it was that the tools

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that you provide in the program are, you know,

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not just relationship also, but professionally too,

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because you’ve gotta build

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relationships for those people as well.

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And I think it’s just really great practice.

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And in fact, I use your journal still to this day, um, yay.

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It’s a really great exercise to start, you know, really,

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and provide putting intentions forward

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and being mindful of it,

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and work, doing the work, I think that’s so important

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00:19:54.325 –> 00:19:55.885
because it doesn’t just come to you.

475
00:19:56.225 –> 00:19:59.845
You really have to do the work doing the practice, you know,

476
00:19:59.845 –> 00:20:02.405
and, and, you know, you continue to use,

477
00:20:02.465 –> 00:20:05.005
and I, as, as I’ve, you know, been talking to you

478
00:20:05.395 –> 00:20:07.805
through this, is I still use those tools every day.

479
00:20:07.805 –> 00:20:09.605
And I, and I, and I is the best,

480
00:20:10.305 –> 00:20:11.605
the best thing that ever happened to me.

481
00:20:13.145 –> 00:20:15.765
So I just feel like my heart’s exploding right now,

482
00:20:15.765 –> 00:20:19.525
because I just feel this is, this is what I get

483
00:20:19.525 –> 00:20:22.445
to do every day, and I’m so lucky that I get

484
00:20:22.445 –> 00:20:23.565
to be a part of that for you.

485
00:20:23.905 –> 00:20:26.765
And, um, I’m so excited for you

486
00:20:27.305 –> 00:20:28.725
and I love celebrating women.

487
00:20:29.025 –> 00:20:31.965
So tell us what you’re doing now with work,

488
00:20:31.965 –> 00:20:33.405
because I know you went out on your

489
00:20:33.405 –> 00:20:34.605
own, and that’s really exciting.

490
00:20:34.665 –> 00:20:37.725
So tell us what you do, and you probably use the journal

491
00:20:37.745 –> 00:20:40.005
to help create that and make that happen, right?

492
00:20:40.935 –> 00:20:44.305
Yeah. I, so about a year ago, I decided

493
00:20:44.365 –> 00:20:46.345
to start my own consulting business.

494
00:20:46.645 –> 00:20:48.245
Um, I’ve, um, you know,

495
00:20:48.245 –> 00:20:50.525
and actually I was really built up from my network

496
00:20:50.705 –> 00:20:52.205
of relationships that I had built

497
00:20:52.825 –> 00:20:55.125
who have been carrying me along this way.

498
00:20:55.305 –> 00:20:57.285
And, and it’s exciting.

499
00:20:57.625 –> 00:21:00.405
Um, and, you know, I think it’s part of just like, I,

500
00:21:00.405 –> 00:21:01.565
like you said, like the marble.

501
00:21:01.685 –> 00:21:02.885
I am this unique marble,

502
00:21:03.545 –> 00:21:05.565
and I’m, I’m here out for the world

503
00:21:05.705 –> 00:21:07.725
to really help other companies.

504
00:21:07.725 –> 00:21:10.525
So my specialty is really around precision medicine

505
00:21:10.865 –> 00:21:12.645
and, um, oncology

506
00:21:12.825 –> 00:21:14.645
and helping startup companies

507
00:21:15.355 –> 00:21:17.525
develop their innovative tools and bring them to market.

508
00:21:17.745 –> 00:21:19.605
So, um, so yeah. Wow.

509
00:21:19.755 –> 00:21:22.165
It’s, it’s been a really great experience.

510
00:21:22.585 –> 00:21:26.975
Um, and, and, um, yeah, I’m, I’m excited about it. So

511
00:21:27.245 –> 00:21:28.975
That is, that is really interesting.

512
00:21:29.075 –> 00:21:31.615
So if, I mean, I don’t know who’s listening

513
00:21:31.615 –> 00:21:33.295
that has a biomedical company,

514
00:21:33.835 –> 00:21:35.855
but like, do you have a website?

515
00:21:35.855 –> 00:21:37.215
Like how can people check that out?

516
00:21:37.335 –> 00:21:39.175
I, it’s a great, I mean, I’m on LinkedIn,

517
00:21:39.195 –> 00:21:40.535
you can find me on LinkedIn.

518
00:21:40.695 –> 00:21:43.655
I, I don’t, I hate to say it, I’m still in the early stages

519
00:21:43.755 –> 00:21:45.055
and I’m more word of mouth,

520
00:21:45.155 –> 00:21:49.215
but you know, I’m, I, I really can across all of the,

521
00:21:49.635 –> 00:21:52.015
the spectrum, you know, really can help with, with,

522
00:21:52.085 –> 00:21:53.655
with the starting businesses

523
00:21:53.675 –> 00:21:56.575
or even maturing businesses if they’re interested in getting

524
00:21:56.605 –> 00:22:00.575
into sort of the digital ai, um, base.

525
00:22:01.395 –> 00:22:04.575
You’re so smart. Oh my gosh. But we’ll

526
00:22:04.575 –> 00:22:06.575
Put the link to LinkedIn in the show notes Okay.

527
00:22:06.595 –> 00:22:08.055
And the description and all that stuff,

528
00:22:08.155 –> 00:22:09.375
so people could check you out.

529
00:22:09.395 –> 00:22:11.815
But Sounds great. I wanna thank you so much for sharing.

530
00:22:12.115 –> 00:22:15.255
So openly, what would you tell somebody who’s listening

531
00:22:15.255 –> 00:22:17.095
and they’re like, oh, is that for me, or is it not for me?

532
00:22:17.095 –> 00:22:18.895
Or, I don’t know if I need that, or I’m on the fence,

533
00:22:19.035 –> 00:22:20.855
or what if it doesn’t work for me?

534
00:22:21.325 –> 00:22:22.325
Like, what would you say?

535
00:22:23.695 –> 00:22:26.575
I mean, I think hopefully my story will really help

536
00:22:27.295 –> 00:22:30.335
convince people that this is absolutely worth it.

537
00:22:30.475 –> 00:22:33.695
If, if it’s to invest in yourself, it’s a small fraction,

538
00:22:34.435 –> 00:22:36.815
um, of really trying to prove yourself.

539
00:22:36.815 –> 00:22:40.215
And it was the best money ever spent to this day, you know?

540
00:22:40.215 –> 00:22:42.095
And I would say, you know, you’ve got nothing to lose,

541
00:22:42.715 –> 00:22:44.615
and you’ve only to invest in yourself.

542
00:22:44.715 –> 00:22:49.695
And, you know, when you’re, you, your mind, go be so

543
00:22:50.485 –> 00:22:53.135
open after this experience that, you know,

544
00:22:53.405 –> 00:22:54.775
limitless possibilities.

545
00:22:56.005 –> 00:22:59.065
Yes. Oh my gosh. Well, I definitely, you’re definitely a,

546
00:22:59.185 –> 00:23:01.625
a model student, and I’m so excited for you.

547
00:23:02.775 –> 00:23:04.545
Well, I, you know, I mean, I really have

548
00:23:04.545 –> 00:23:05.585
to thank you, Hilary.

549
00:23:05.625 –> 00:23:07.665
I mean, you’re a gift because like,

550
00:23:07.805 –> 00:23:10.145
it was almost like a calling and you came to me

551
00:23:10.145 –> 00:23:12.465
and I was like, oh my God, this is what I needed.

552
00:23:12.985 –> 00:23:14.905
I mean, you’re, you’re exceptional what you do.

553
00:23:14.925 –> 00:23:16.225
And, and I’m really grateful

554
00:23:16.225 –> 00:23:18.105
that you’re in the role you have.

555
00:23:18.725 –> 00:23:20.225
Oh, thank you. I feel blessed.

556
00:23:20.525 –> 00:23:24.505
And, um, just big hugs to you. I’m always cheering for you.

557
00:23:24.505 –> 00:23:25.985
Always, always, always. And I love you

558
00:23:25.985 –> 00:23:27.465
so much, and thanks for being here.

559
00:23:27.575 –> 00:23:29.665
Yeah, thank you. Okay. Take care. Thanks for

560
00:23:29.665 –> 00:23:30.665
Listening, everybody.

561
00:23:33.205 –> 00:23:34.335
That is really interesting.

562
00:23:34.515 –> 00:23:37.215
So, if, I mean, I don’t know who’s listening

563
00:23:37.215 –> 00:23:38.935
that has a biomedical company,

564
00:23:39.435 –> 00:23:41.455
but like, do you have a website?

565
00:23:41.455 –> 00:23:43.055
Like how can people check that out? I,

566
00:23:43.405 –> 00:23:44.975
It’s a great, I mean, I’m on LinkedIn,

567
00:23:45.145 –> 00:23:46.285
you can find me on LinkedIn.

568
00:23:46.405 –> 00:23:49.245
I, I don’t, I hate to say it, I’m still in the early stages

569
00:23:49.345 –> 00:23:50.685
and I’m more word of mouth,

570
00:23:50.745 –> 00:23:54.805
but you know, I’m, I, I really can across all of the,

571
00:23:55.225 –> 00:23:57.565
the spectrum, you know, really can help with, with,

572
00:23:57.675 –> 00:23:59.125
with the starting businesses

573
00:23:59.125 –> 00:24:02.205
or even maturing businesses if they’re interested in getting

574
00:24:02.315 –> 00:24:06.165
into sort of the digital ai, um, space.

575
00:24:06.345 –> 00:24:09.125
You’re so smart. Oh my gosh. But

576
00:24:09.125 –> 00:24:11.445
We’ll put the link LinkedIn in the show notes Okay.

577
00:24:11.445 –> 00:24:12.885
And the description and all that stuff

578
00:24:12.985 –> 00:24:14.205
so people could check you out.

579
00:24:14.225 –> 00:24:16.605
But Sounds great. I wanna thank you so much for sharing.

580
00:24:16.905 –> 00:24:19.965
So openly, what would you tell somebody who’s listening

581
00:24:19.965 –> 00:24:22.205
and they’re like, oh, is that for me, or is it not for me?

582
00:24:22.205 –> 00:24:24.045
Or, I don’t know if I need that, or I’m on the fence,

583
00:24:24.065 –> 00:24:25.125
or what if it doesn’t work

584
00:24:25.265 –> 00:24:27.045
for me? Like, what would you say?

585
00:24:27.365 –> 00:24:30.205
I mean, I think hopefully my story will really help

586
00:24:30.925 –> 00:24:33.965
convince people that this is absolutely worth it.

587
00:24:34.105 –> 00:24:37.165
If, if it’s to invest in yourself, it’s a small fraction,

588
00:24:37.905 –> 00:24:40.485
um, of really trying to prove yourself.

589
00:24:40.485 –> 00:24:43.845
And it was the best money ever spent to this day, you know?

590
00:24:43.845 –> 00:24:45.725
And I would say, you know, you’ve got nothing to lose

591
00:24:46.345 –> 00:24:48.245
and you’ve only to invest in yourself.

592
00:24:48.345 –> 00:24:53.285
And, you know, when you’re, you, your mind, go be so

593
00:24:54.115 –> 00:24:56.685
open after this experience that, you know,

594
00:24:57.035 –> 00:24:58.445
limitless possibilities.

595
00:24:58.825 –> 00:24:59.845
Yes. Oh my gosh.

596
00:25:00.355 –> 00:25:02.605
Well, I definitely, you’re definitely a, a model student

597
00:25:02.785 –> 00:25:04.445
and I’m so excited for you.

598
00:25:05.595 –> 00:25:07.045
Well, I, you know, I mean, I really

599
00:25:07.045 –> 00:25:08.205
have to thank you, Hillary.

600
00:25:08.405 –> 00:25:10.485
I mean, you’re a gift because like,

601
00:25:10.625 –> 00:25:12.885
it was almost like a calling and you came to me

602
00:25:12.885 –> 00:25:15.205
and I was like, oh my God, this is what I needed.

603
00:25:15.725 –> 00:25:17.765
I mean, you’re, you’re exceptional what you do.

604
00:25:17.825 –> 00:25:19.005
And, and I’m really grateful

605
00:25:19.005 –> 00:25:20.885
that you’re in the role you have.

606
00:25:21.505 –> 00:25:23.005
Oh, thank you. I feel blessed.

607
00:25:23.305 –> 00:25:27.285
And, um, just big hugs to you. I’m always cheering for you.

608
00:25:27.285 –> 00:25:28.765
Always, always, always. And I love you

609
00:25:28.765 –> 00:25:30.245
so much, and thanks for being here.

610
00:25:30.355 –> 00:25:32.405
Yeah, thank you. Okay. Take care. Thanks for

611
00:25:32.405 –> 00:25:32.925
Listening everybody.

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